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TALKIN’ TO THE TALIBAN: When is “Talking” Not REALLY Talking?
The buzz continues about talking with the Taliban, and the denials that earlier talks/discussions/whatever happened with UN Uber-envoy Kai Eide in Dubai.
Item: An official statement attributed to the Taliban’s “Leadership Council” says:
The Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate, on the basis of its previous legitimate stance, refutes the rumors in some media reports, about negotiation between representatives of the Islamic Emirate and, UN Special Envoy, Kei Ide (sic). The Leadership Council considers this mere futile and baseless rumors, being a machination against Jihad and Mujahideen who are waging Jihad against the invaders. The Leadership Council once again emphasizes continuation of Islamic Jihad against all invaders as a mean to frustrate these conspiracies.
Item (Scribd.com): A Taliban spokesperson, reportedly in contact with one of the “usual suspect” propaganda sites, is even more specific:
We the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and the world keeps hearing about meetings taking places between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and the invaders and its stooges, be it in Saudi Arabia or Dubai, we the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and the world would like to see some evident of these meetings, the names of the individuals who have participated in these meetings, because no member of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has taking part in any of these meetings, be it in Saudi Arabia or Dubai, these type of false statements by the invaders and its stooges are to confuse the people, thus diverting the realities of the invasion …. no member of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan council has met with the UN representative for Afghanistan to discuss the possibility of laying down their arms.
This seems to be the party line anytime talks of any kind have been reported by the mainstream media (MSM). But does that mean nobody’s talking?
A recent article (PDF) West Point’s Combating Terrorist Centre’s The Sentinel, authored by the Centre’s Vahid Brown (who also contributes to the Jihadica blog), paints an interesting picture of Osama Bin Laden’s oath of loyalty to the Taliban’s Mullah Omar. It’s worth reading in its entirety, but here’s the main takeaway offering some insight into the “Talkin’ to the Taliban” issue.
Much has been made of Osama’s oath of loyalty to Mullah Omar as evidence that there’s a tight relationship between Al Queda and the Taliban. On the other hand, some analysts say it’s more like “friends with benefits”.
According to Brown’s piece, when it came time to declare allegiance to Omar as a way to garner better protection while in Afghanistan, what did wily Osama do?
He had what appears to be a reasonably trusted henchman take the oath for him as a proxy. And why did the proxy think Osama prefered this to doing it in person? This, from a posting to a jihadist online forum in 2007:
I asked myself why (Osama) insisted on having me perform the bay’a to Mullah Omar on his behalf. Why not do it directly? I think he did it this way in order to leave himself plenty of room to maneuver, in the event that he be pressed on whether or not he indeed pledged allegiance to (Omar). If circumstances require him to deny it, he can honestly say that he did not, as he did not swear allegiance personally. And if circumstances require him to confirm the bay’a, he can say he did, ans this will likewise be the truth, as the bay’a was made – if only on his behalf.
Did talks with the Taliban take place? Did talks take place with people other than Taliban leadership?
Yes they did.
TALIBAN PROPAGANDA WATCH: Talks? What Talks?
28 Jan 10: We hear UN Uber-envoy Kai Eide had a chance to speak to “Members of the Taliban’s leadership council” in Dubai.
30 Jan 10: The official Taliban response?
The Shura leadership of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in accordance with the position of the former fundamentalist rumors and some world media strongly, which was published on the participation of representatives of the Islamic Emirate in the talks with Kai Eide Special Representative of the United Nations. Shura is the leadership of the Islamic Emirate of these rumors are baseless and unfounded propaganda ….
Want to read the rest? Original in Arabic here, clunky Google English translation here and both at non-terrorist site here.
Update (1): Here’s the official English version at Voice of Jihad, with the PDF at a non-terrorist site here:
The Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate, on the basis of its previous legitimate stance, refutes the rumors in some media reports, about negotiation between representatives of the Islamic Emirate and, UN Special Envoy, Kei Ide (sic). The Leadership Council considers this mere futile and baseless rumors, being a machination against Jihad and Mujahideen who are waging Jihad against the invaders. The Leadership Council once again emphasizes continuation of Islamic Jihad against all invaders as a mean to frustrate these conspiracies.